Tops and Tales Podcast

Join PDC Darts referee Huw Ware for Tops and Tales, the podcast that gives you the chance to hear from the world’s best darts players! From the experiences which have helped to shape them into the darts players we see today to what makes them tick off the oche, we talk about anything and everything, having a few laughs along the way!

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Charlie Corstorphine: “There’s a lot more to darts refereeing now”

In the latest episode of Tops and Tales, darts referee Huw Ware sits down with another darts referee!

It’s Charlie Corstorphine’s turn in the chair and the two referees talk about the ins and outs of darts refereeing, advice from George Noble and stories from Charlie’s career stood next to the dartboard.

Huw also asks Charlie about his decision to step away from the BDO before the 2020 BDO World Championships, how he joined the PDC, the future of darts refereeing, his passion for running in aid of Prostate Cancer UK and so much more!

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Dave Allen: “There’s no other sport globally which has such a breadth of competitors and the opportunities we can offer”

Since 2004, Dave Allen has been the PDC’s Head of Media and has seen first-hand the growth of the sport ever since. He is now leaving his role to become the PDC’s newly formed Head of Development, but not before he sits down with Huw Ware to talk about his life and times as the PDC’s Head of Media including teaching cameramen not to rustle their crisp packets, walking the Great Wall of China, and how two decades of hard work has led to darts becoming one of the biggest global sports in the world.

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John McDonald: “I’ll miss being part of a team. Nothing lasts forever, we all must move on”

Since making his debut at The Showdown between Phil Taylor and Andy Fordham at the Circus Tavern, MC John McDonald has been the face of PDC darts for over two decades. Now, as he prepares to MC his final match before retirement, the 2026 World Darts Championship Final, John reminisces with Huw Ware about how his time in the military shaped him as a human being, including how a close shave with a goat nearly cost him his place there! John also tells us how he became a sports MC, how he always wanted to work for Barry Hearn, the backstage story of The Showdown after Andy Fordham was sadly taken ill, stories of his friendship with Russ Bray, Sid Waddell, it's all here and more in this special episode of Tops and Tales.

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Martin Schindler: “Hopefully Germany can still have a bigger impact on the darting world”

In this week's episode of Tops and Tales, Huw Ware sits down with Germany’s number one, Martin Schindler.
Huw and Martin discuss Martin’s beginnings with PDC Europe working as a STEWARD(!), how losing his Tour Card toughened him up as a dart player, the future of German darts, famously beating England in the World Cup and so much more!

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Dimitri Van den Bergh: “Follow your dreams”

This week’s episode of Tops and Tales sees Huw Ware sit down with arguably the greatest player to ever come from Belgium, Dimitri Van den Bergh.

The two go in-depth, about Dimitri’s background in darts, lessons from the PDC ProTour and living with Peter and Jo Wright during the COVID pandemic.

The two discuss Dimitri’s memories of winning the World Matchplay and UK Open, before discussing what has been a very tough 2025 for “The Dream Maker”, culminating in why he made the decision to step away from the ProTour in Rosmalen and how he now sees his future in the game.

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Josh Rock: “You’ve always got the next day”

Huw Ware sits down with one of the brightest young stars in the game of darts today, Josh Rock.
A World Cup of Darts Champion with Team Northern Ireland, as well as a former World Youth Champion, Josh talks to Huw about how he handles having the darts the world at his feet at only 24 years of age, as well as the story of how he won the World Cup with Daryl Gurney in a thrilling final against Team Wales.
Josh also talks growing up in County Antrim as a Manchester United-mad football fan, his emotions on the oche including his tears as a ten year-old after losing his first ever match in a pub!
The pair talk about Josh’s friendship with Luke Littler, how he unwinds with his family including becoming an ambassador for autism, as well as so much more!
It’s all here in a brand new episode of Tops and Tales!

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